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#1 2012-03-07 22:14:24

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Duński czy szwedzki?

Witam,

rozważam wyjazd do Skandynawii - Szwecja bądź Dania, do pracy i na specjalizację (studiuję medycynę w PL). Nie ukrywam, że wolałbym wyjechać do Danii, jednak mam spory problem ze znalezieniem szkoły, która uczy języka duńskiego w moim mieście, dlatego myślę o nauce szwedzkiego, mimo preferowanego kierunku emigracji. I stąd moje pytanie: Czy kiedy nauczę się szwedzkiego w stopniu komunikatywnym, powiedzmy w dwa lata, jak ciężko będzie nauczyć się duńskiego, bazując na znajomości szwedzkiego? Czy języki te różnią się aż tak bardzo, że w zasadzie trzebaby prawie zaczynać od zera?
Jak długo zajęłaby mi nauka duńskiego do poziomu powiedzmy B2, gdybym 2x w tygodniu po dwie godziny chodził na jakiś kurs, o ile uda mi się go w końcu znaleźć? Dodam, że z nauką języków nie mam problemów, angielski znam bardzo dobrze.

Czy może lepiej poszukać jakiegoś prywatnego nauczyciela duńskiego (a znalazłem raptem trzech) i od razu zacząć z duńskim bez bawienia się w naukę szwedzkiego (jeśli niewiele miałaby się przydać jako pomoc w późniejszej nauce duńskiego) ? Niestety, wiadomo, indywidualne lekcje to większy koszt niż na kursie w grupie kilkuosobowej.

Z góry dziękuję za wszelkie rady i odpowiedzi

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#2 2012-03-07 23:28:38

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

Witam. W teorii Szwedzi, którzy przyjeżdżają do Danii się dogadują z Duńczykami, ale oni są Szwedami, a my się tylko uczymy tych języków. Z mojego doświadczenia wiem, że mimo, iż teraz znam duński nie poradziłbym sobie w Szwecji. Do tego w Danii naprawdę osoby niezbyt zdolne językowo, nie mające nic wspólnego ze Szwecją, nie będą miały ochoty dosłuchiwać się i domyślać, powiedzą, że nie znają szwedzkiego i tyle. To przypomina trochę sytuację Czecha w Polsce, jak ktoś się będzie chciał dogadać to się dogada, jak nie to nie. Jak dla mnie w nauce duńskiego bardziej pomocny jest norweski, szwedzki to raczej taka średnia pomoc... Jak się raz nauczysz szwedzkiej wymowy, to będziesz miał duże problemy by zmienić ją na duńską...
Języki skandynawskie nie należą do trudnych, jedyną trudnością jest w wymowa. W języku duńskim jest ona dodatkowo najtrudniejsza smile Trzeba wiele pracować samemu, pomocne jest radio i telewizja. Co do poziomu B2 to myślę, że są potrzebne jakieś dwa lata. Najwięcej nauczysz się w Danii. Ja bym zapłacił więcej za prywatnego lektora, można z nim porozmawiać, zadawać mu pytania o gramatykę, rzeczy niejasne, poprosić o materiały, a  samemu uczyć się z radia, tv, artykułów. Płynnej rozmowy nauczysz się i tak dopiero w Danii. Jest wspaniały słownik internetowy, większość można robić samemu.

Ostatnio edytowany przez Sierak89 (2012-03-07 23:29:28)

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#3 2012-03-08 14:53:01

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

Super, wielkie dzięki za odpowiedź i rady smile

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#4 2013-08-14 19:55:14

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

To co słyszałem to w Danii i tak każdy umie mówić po angielsku.

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#5 2014-09-29 11:25:52

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

Ja też tak słyszałam, raczej bym stawiała na szwedzki.

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#6 2014-10-31 10:29:17

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

Z mojego doświadczenia mało osób rozmawia w Danii po angielsku, prędzej po szwedzku, czy norwesku. Popytam wśród znajomych może ktoś naucza tych języków i pomoże. Początkowo polecam skorzystać z usług tłumacza duńskiego, kiedy jeszcze nie jesteśmy na tyle biegli z językiem.

Pozdrawiam.

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#7 2014-12-12 13:51:58

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

W Dani można spokojnie porozumieć się po angielsku. Większość Duńczyków zna angielski w stopniu komunikatywnym. Duński nie jest zbyt prosty, można powiedzieć, że początkowo przysparzał mi sporo trudności ale jak każdy język da się go opanować wink Na początku korzystałam z pomocy biura tłumaczeń artoftranslation, szczególnie kiedy potrzebowałam jakiś dokumentów, odpisów itd. A na co dzień kontaktowałam się z nimi po angielsku smile

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#8 2015-01-16 14:13:55

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

Jeśli właśnie wybór padł między tymi dwoma językami hmm to powiem szczerze, że to chyba bardziej warto się zabrać za naukę języka duńskiego. Nie wiem w jakim celu chcesz się uczyć tego języka albo tego, bo jeśli właśnie myślisz o takim wyjeździe na stale do jednego z tych dwóch państw to się lepiej ulokować w Danii : )

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#9 2015-01-27 14:37:59

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

Ja też właśnie słyszałem, że język duński może być bardziej przyszłościowy i jest tam zdecydowanie więcej pracy jakby ktoś chciał jechać tam na stałe zamieszkać czy jakoś wakacyjnie popracować. Moim zdaniem po prostu warto się miesiąc uczyć języka duńskiego a później miesiąc szwedzkiego i ma się jako takie porównanie.

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#10 2015-02-06 08:57:59

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

Jeśli takie jest pytanie duński czy szwedzki to zdecydowanie lepiej się uczyć duńskiego języka. Zawsze się on może bardziej przydać bo właśnie w Dani jest dość sporo pracy i nie tylko dla fachowców ale dla wszystkich co jako tako znają ten język. W Szwecji nie ma aż tyle pracy i jakby ktoś chciał wyjechać to niestety byłoby gorzej

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#11 2015-04-14 10:57:05

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Re: Duński czy szwedzki?

W Szwecji to nie ma tyle pracy a skąd takie informacje posiadasz? W Danii i w Szwecji mi się zdaję iż mniej więcej po równo tyle pracy : ) jeśli ktoś ma nadal taki dylemat czego się uczyć to ja po prostu polecam od razu na bieżąco naukę tych 2 języków jednocześnie. : ) wtedy się będzie umiało i to i to hahah

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